Am I a bagel or a bialy person? …the jury is still out.
For years, I’ve vowed that I would make bialys. I was first aware of them in 2001, when I was given “Artisan Baking in America” by Maggie Glezer. Every time I open up her book to get to our favourite “Acme’s Rustic Baguettes” recipe, I gaze at the beautiful photos of Kossar’s bialys all stacked up and golden.
When I was growing up in Milwaukee, one was either a bagel or a bialy person; I was the latter. During the week, I loved toasted and well-buttered bialys for breakfast. I still remember my precise bialy-eating ritual: I would eat the thicker bottom half first, taking care to circumvent the oniony central crater. Then I would eat the thinner, bubblier top half, which often had some onion flavor carried over from the center. finallly I got to the crater where, if I was lucky, a pool of melted butter would remain. This last bit was thoroughly delicious, and its memory carried me in the cold, dark bus ride to school.
– Maggie Glezer, Artisan Baking Across America, Kossar’s Bialys, p. 172
The first time I saw Glezer’s bialys, I got distracted into making bagels instead. Because j’adore bagels and at that time, I was definitely in the bagel camp. And then, typically, I forgot about bialys.
Until I read about fellow BBBabe Natashya’s bialys and vowed to make them as soon as I was home for the day.
Then I read about bialys in Rose Levy Beranbaum’s “Bread Bible” but got distracted by her bagels. I was still firmly in the bagel camp….
Then I read about onions in Dana Bowen’s article Roots of Flavor: The Versatile, Inspiring Onion in SAVEUR magazine and saw the bialys recipe at the end of the article, I vowed again to make them as soon as I got home. And forgot. Again.
Until the other day. One of our friends brought us a bag of organic onions from their farm. She said they just couldn’t finish eating them all. They are stunningly beautiful and look as if they were picked last week.
Ha. It just goes to show you how long the onions we buy must languish in warehouses before we see them!
And I thought about the fact that we really should show the onions off. What better way than with onion bialys?
There are some who divide the world between bagel lovers and bialy lovers […] This simple and amazing bread, spread with butter is a soul-satisfying as bread ever gets. […]
Kossar’s, on the lower east side of New York, is close to Greenwich Village, where I live, and even closer to where my great-grandparents lived years before I was born. Kossar’s is considered by New Yorkers to be the last word in biialys, so I was delighted when Whitey, one of the top bakers, who has worked there for twenty five years, offered to give me a lesson in making and shaping bialy dough. […]
Allow the bialys to rise […] until almost doubled; when pressed lightly in the center, they should keep the impression. If the dough is underrisen, it will puff up in the center instead of maintaing the characteristic hollow crater. The trick for underrisen dough is to make a small hole in the center before adding the filling.
– Rose Levy Beranbaum, The Bread Bible, Onion Bialys, p. 62,64
I deliberated. Should I use Maggie Glezer’s recipe or Rose Levy Beranbaum’s recipe? Both are from Kossar’s. I looked at the recipes and the ingredients appeared to be identical.
The biggest differences are that Glezer makes twice as many bialys as Beranbaum and uses a food processor to mix the dough. Glezer says that she puts her onions into her food processor first and then, without washing out the processor’s bowl, she mixes the dough to give it a hint of onion flavour.
Because I planned to hand-mix the bialy dough, make only 6 bialys and use a knife to chop the onion, I opted to use Beranbaum’s recipe. I didn’t think it would make any difference.
Here is what I did:
Onion and Poppy Seed Bialys
based on a recipe in The Bread Bible by Rose Levy Beranbaum
makes 6 bialys
- 206 gm lukewarm water ¹
- .5 tsp dry yeast ²
- 9 gm high gluten flour ³
- 231 gm unbleached all-purpose flour
- 60 gm whole wheat flour
- 6.6 gm Kosher salt (next time use less! 4)
- 1 small onion, chopped
- splash unflower oil
- .25 tsp Kosher salt (next time, use less)
- .5 tsp poppy seeds
- good shot freshly ground black pepper
- Mixing the dough In a largish mixing bowl, whisk the yeast into the water until it has dissolved. Add flours and stir with a wooden spoon until the flour is pretty much incorporated. This is stiffish dough.
- Kneading Plop the dough onto the board. You probably don’t have to add any extra flour. Allow it to sit for a moment as you wash and dry the bowl. Please do not be tempted to skip this step.
- Knead the dough by hand for 5 to 10 minutes until it is silky smooth. Let the dough scraper be your friend to keep the board clean.
- Proofing Put the dough into the clean bowl. Cover with plate and allow to rise in a no-draft warm place (I put it in the oven with only the light turned on) for a couple of hours or until doubled in size.
- Shaping When the dough has doubled, turn it out onto a lightly floured board. Cut it into 6 even pieces. Gently shape each one into a round; try to maintain the bubbliness of the dough. Place each round seam-side down on a parchment papered cookie sheet.
- Proofing Cover with a clean tea towel followed by a large plastic bag and allow to rise in a no-draft warm place (I put it in the oven with only the light turned on) for a couple of hours or until doubled in size. It’s better if the dough is slightly over risen. That way, the indentation will not be likely to balloon up.
- Onion Topping Chop the onion quite finely. Heat a small cast iron pan. Sploosh in some oil then throw in the onion. Cook at medium low heat, stirring it with a wooden spoon for about 5 minutes until the onions are transluscent and starting to be tinged with colour. Remove from heat. Add poppy seeds, salt and pepper and allow to cool.
- Final Shaping Check to make sure the dough has risen enough by gently pressing the center of one of the rounds with your thumb. If the indentation stays, then the dough is ready for its final shaping. Pick up one of the rounds in both hands. With your fingers on the bottom of the round, use your thumbs to stretch it out to be about 4 inches in diameter. There should be an indentation in the middle. Take care to leave the outer edges loftier. Place the saucer-like disc back onto the parchment papered baking sheet. Repeat with the other rounds.
- Spoon a small amount of onion mixture into the center of each bialy. Apparently, less is more.
- Baking Put the stone on the center rack of the oven and preheat to 400F. Liberally spray the bialys with water (I forgot to do this) and slide the parchment paper onto the hot stone. Bake the bialys for about 8 minutes until they are dark golden. 4
- Allow to them to cool completely on a footed rack. (They’re still baking inside!)
1.) Water: Tap water is fine to use – just make sure that it has stood for at least 12 hours so that the chlorine has dissipated. Under no circumstances should you use water from the hot water tap. Of course, saying that it is unsafe to use water from the hot water tap might be an urban myth, but why tempt fate? Heat the water in a kettle or microwave and add cold water until it is the correct temperature, (use the baby bottle test on the back of your wrist – your fingers have no idea of temperature!) Or you can use a thermometer. The temperature should be BELOW 120F because yeast begins to die when the temperature is higher than 120F.
3.) Yeast: This time round, I used instant yeast (because that’s what we happen to have in the fridge). If it were active dry, I’d probably use the same amount.
3.) Flour: Like bagels, bialys call for strong flour. Unbleached bread flour is no longer easily obtainable (stupid demographic studies, profit margins and share holders wanting ever higher returns). We buy high gluten flour (sometimes called “vital wheat gluten” from the health food store and add it to our unbleached all-purpose flour. Rather than following the allrecipes.com formula of adding a teaspoon of vital wheat gluten to each cup of flour, I used Susan’s percentages to calculate how much high gluten flour to add.
Flour--Bread 1 cup 1 cup all-purpose flour plus 1 teaspoon wheat gluten (available at health food stores & some supermarkets) – allrecipes.com, Common Ingredient Substitutions
I found that replacing the high-gluten flour in my usual sourdough bagel recipe with a mixture of 97% flour (the regular flour I use for bread) and 3% vital wheat gluten gave me a bagel that was virtually indistinguishable from the original.
– Susan, Wild Yeast, Bagels Revisited
4.) Salt: Salt: I didn’t notice until we tasted the bialys that Beranbaum calls for 6.6gm of salt and Glezer calls for just 6 gm of salt for the same amount of flour. If there is not enough salt, the bread may not brown enough; the reverse is true as well: if there is too much salt, the bread may turn out too brown or red. While these bialys were on the blonde side, I still say “too much salt”. Next time, I’ll put in 6 gm as Glezer suggests. And I may omit the salt from the onion mixture entirely.
Salt indirectly contributes to crust coloring. This attribute is a result of the salt’s characteristic of retarding fermentation. Starch in the flour is converted into simple sugars […] Since the salt is slowing the rate of the sugar consumption, more of what is known as residual sugar is available at the time of the bake for crust coloration.
-King Arthur Flour, salt
Typically the amount of salt in a dough is between 1.8 and 2 percent of the amount of flour, by weight. If there is a large proportion of other ingredients, such as seeds, for which salt also enhances flavor, the percentage of salt could be a little higher.
-Susan, Wild Yeast, Wild Yeast: Worth Its Salt – The Role of Salt in Bread
5. Baking Beranbaum suggests using a much hotter oven temperature. Our oven is ancient and we really have no idea what the temperature is in there. We think that when it’s set to 400F, it’s much hotter….
N.B. If you wish to serve warm bialys, reheat them after they have cooled completely. They are still baking when they first come out of the oven! To reheat any UNsliced bread, turn the oven to 500F for 5 minutes or so. Turn the oven OFF. Put the bread in the hot oven for ten minutes.
- other Bialys recipes:
» SAVEUR magazine, no.142: Onion and Poppy Seed Bialys
» Canadian Living: onion bialys (canadianliving.com/food/onion_bialys.php)
» “Baking Artisan Bread” by Ciril Hitz: Bialy
- Information and Tools
» YouTube: Shaping Bialys, Part 1 (jump to 3:19 on the video and ignore the part with the plastic wrap); Shaping Bialys, Part 2
» Gourmet Sleuth: Cooking Conversions Calculator
» about salt: kingarthurflour.com: role of salt in bread (pdf); Wild Yeast: Worth Its Salt – The Role of Salt in Bread
» Real Baking With Rose: With all the specialty flours on the market, how can you tell which to use?; How can you be sure your oven is holding the right temperature?
- recipes from OUR kitchen:
» more bread recipes
» even more bread recipes
But. They were salty. Almost too salty.
So, I checked to see that I had got the measurements right. Yup. I did. Beranbaum calls for 6.6gm salt (that I measured with my nifty little scale that measures in fractions of grams). Glezer (for twice the amount of flour) calls for 12gm of salt. Phooey. So much for my reading abilities….
Still, the bialys were really good. We’ll definitely have them again. We ate them with LOTS of butter that melted beautifully on the insanely hot bialys that we had reheated for several minutes in the toaster oven.
Why did we leave them in the toaster over for so long? T kept pointing at the photo of bialys in Glezer’s books and saying that they were much darker than ours. I kept reading the baking instructions in both books:
Preheat the oven to 475°F (240°C) […] Slide the parchment onto the hot stone and bake the bialys until just spotted brown, 6 to 8 minutes
– Maggie Glezer, Kossar’s Bialys, Artisan Baking Across America, p. 175
Preheat the oven to 475°F […] Place the baking sheet with the bialys directly on the hot oven stone […] Bake for 6 to 10 minutes or until pale golden and mottled with brown spots (an instant-read thermometer inserted into the center will read about 211°F).
– Rose Levy Beranbaum, Bialys, The Bread Bible, p.164,165
Okay okay. I admit it. (Shhhhh, don’t let T know that he’s right. His head will explode.) I should have let the oven preheat for longer AND left the bialys in for another 5 minutes or so – until they were nicely golden instead of just barely tinged with gold.
My excuse was that it was late and I wanted to go and watch a movie instead of hang around in the kitchen.
But even though our bialys might not have been quite as golden as is ideal, I still loved them. I haven’t decided whether I love them more than bagels. It’s close. Really close.
One thing is certain. Because no par-boiling is required, bialys ARE easier to make than bagels.
But I just can’t decide. Hmmmm, maybe I should test by having another bialy.
SAVEUR magazine has a number of recommendations. Which one(s) should we choose?
- Chicken and onion tagine?
- Onion and bacon tart?
- Oooh, or what about French Onion Soup? (We’ll probably use our own recipe for
FrenchCanadian Onion Soup though)
Oh oh. I hope we have enough onions!
Some time ago, Ruth (Ruth’s Kitchen Experiments) created this event to urge herself (and everyone else) to actually make the several recipes they have bookmarked in various books, magazines and internet pages. Jacqueline (Tinned Tomatoes) has taken over Bookmarked Recipes.
Please note that Jacqueline is vegetarian and has requested that submissions be vegetarian or easily changed into vegetarian recipes.
For complete details on how to participate in Bookmarked Recipes, please read the following:
- Bookmarked Recipes #20 roundup and submission for Bookmarked Recipes #21
- Bookmarked Recipes guidelines
Each week, Susan (Wild Yeast) compiles a list of many bread-specific recipes from across the web. For complete details on how to be included in the YeastSpotting round up, please read the following:
Bake Your Own Bread (BYOB)
BYOB is a monthly event begun by Sandy (At the Baker’s Bench), passed on to Cathy (Bread Experience) and hosted by Heather (girlichef) last year. Heather wrote:
[BYOB] encourages you to start (or continue) getting comfortable baking bread in your own kitchen. Anything from simple quick breads to conquering that fear of yeast to making and nurturing your own sourdough starter. All levels of bakers are welcome to participate.
Heather has handed the BYOB hosting reins over to Roxana (Roxana’s Homebaking). For more information about BYOB and how to participate, please read the following:
- BYOB: Bake Your Own Bread
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» I ♥ Bagels
» wild Bagels
» bagel making and Rose Levy Beranbaum’s instructions
» Beranbaum’s bagels from “The Bread Bible”
» sesame twisted rings (bbd#30)
» Ka’kat and Dukka (BTFF)
- posts about Beranbaum’s Bread Bible:
» in praise of Rose Levy Beranbaum (1,2,3 meme) (review of “The Bread Bible”)
» baguettes at last! (from a recipe in “The Bread Bible” by Rose Levy Beranbaum
» Caraway Rye Bread from ‘The Bread Bible’
» Onion Bialys (bookmarked) (from a recipe in “The Bread Bible” by Rose Levy Beranbaum)