The bronze medal refused by the Swedish wrestler concerns me. I was a little surprised by what I perceived to be poor sportsmanship but then I watched a boxing match where one boxer was clearly favoured by the judges and was given points that he didn't deserve (according to the Canadian commentators who had no stake in the match between the Dominican Republic and Ireland). Was this the case with the Swedish wrestler? is he right in claiming that "it's all politics?"
edit: I have to clarify. The Swedish wrestler showed very poor sportsmanship even if the judging was poor because the referee is always right.
MrsBrown wrote:I've been watching much of the Olympics. [...snip...]
The bronze medal refused by the Swedish wrestler concerns me.
What concerns me more is the number of records that have been broken in swimming, running, rowing (others?). I'm starting to be suspicious about the clocks. Is it at all possible that the second is a tiny bit longer in Beijing?
This is a tricky situation though, especially if it really is clear that the referee was partisan. But I didn't see any wrestling (wrestling makes me queasy) and only saw the end of the news clip showing the wrestler throw down the medal. I must say that I would be more impressed if the Italian had handed his gold medal to the Swede as a protest of the judging though (although there's no saying whether the Swede would have won the match with the Hungarian wrestler). But it does seem a bit like sour grapes. I gather from reading about it that the match was very close.MrsBrown wrote:edit: I have to clarify. The Swedish wrestler showed very poor sportsmanship even if the judging was poor because the referee is always right.
Is this clear to the world in general or is it just the Swedish news media supporting Abrahamian? According to the story in Ottawa Citizen: Wrestling community comes to defence of official, it is unlikely that there could be unfair judging.MEF wrote:The story becomes quite complicated , but it seems clear that Ara was not the referees' choice to win.
It even appears that Abrahamian benefitted from the judging method; take a look at this story about the quarter final match between Abrahamian and Byers:
In searching Google news for more information about the Olympic wrestling controversy, I came across this:
The Canadian Press: Bay-jing or Bay-zhing? NBC's pronunciation conundrum at the Olympics
I thought it was "Bay-zhing". But it turns out I'm wrong (again):
The Canadian Press, wrote:In the shadow of Olympic venues, Brian Williams has anchored NBC's "Nightly News" this week in a city he calls Bay-jing. [...snip...] [H]e asked around when he got to China - NBC News' Chinese-born Beijing staff, cab drivers, local broadcasters, interns. Everyone he spoke to used "jing."
I, like ejm, find wrestling kind of icky but I watched Carol Huynh's matches last night and was amazed at her strength and speed. Well done, Carol Huynh!!
Is this the case with wrestling as well? (that there is more than one judge per bout)MrsBrown wrote:I asked a former world-ranked judge of another sport what he thought. He said that sometimes judges see things that aren't seen by other judges which is why in his sport, karate, there are 5 judges and the highest and lowest scores are dropped.
I just watched the Olympic coverage on TV for about half an hour, switching back and forth between American, English Canadian and French Canadian stations. In that half hour, I think there must have been 20 minutes of ads, 8 minutes of interviews and/or official headshots of athletes who had won medals today and 2 minutes of actual event footage (but only snippets).
On the French channel, we saw footage of the little machines that retrieve and return the javelins to the throwing pad (or whatever it's called). But did they show any javelin throwing? HA!
Am I alone or does anyone else wish that we could see athletes competing instead of lame interviews with Canadian or American (depending on the channel) athletes, who are spitting out generic phrases along the following lines: "I was really focussed and felt I did my best. I really want to thank my mom who text messaged me that she loved me no matter what I did. That's what gave me the courage to [win the gold/silver/bronze][give the best performance of my life][break the record]."?
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I wonder whom to admire? Who's been cheating and who hasn't? See the story at http://www.mcclatchydc.com/264/story/35879.html.ejm wrote:What concerns me more is the number of records that have been broken in swimming, running, rowing (others?). I'm starting to be suspicious about the clocks.
In view of that, I think they should just give in and run the "doped to the gills Olympics" and the "drug-free Olympics" (in the same way they decided that it was okay to allow professional athletes to compete in the Olympics). Then they could have a "World Series Olympics" with gold medalists from both versions competing. I wonder if any of the drug-free athletes would stand a chance?Lawless in Lotusland wrote: I wonder whom to admire? Who's been cheating and who hasn't? See the story at http://www.mcclatchydc.com/264/story/35879.html.
It would be very interesting to see how many athletes there would be left to compete in the drug-free Olympics.
I can't help but be reminded of Kurt Vonnegut's short story "Harrison Bergeron".
Yes!! That sounds fantastic. So fantastic that the other kind of Olympics should be done away with.David wrote:I'd also like to see the Mechanically-Assisted Olympics where athletes can use springs, levers, pulleys and gears to run, jump and throw stuff.